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# #40 – Part Two: Has Atai Taken the Psychedelic Throne from MAPS? (The Murderous Dictator Episode)
- URL: https://www.psymposia.com/40-part-two-has-atai-taken-the-psychedelic-throne-from-maps-the-murderous-dictator-episode/
- Published: 2021-07-21T03:30:33.000Z
- Updated: 2026-09-25T00:52:50.000Z
- Description: In Part Two Normie, Dave, Russell, and Sarvesh continue their conversation about Atai Life Sciences and how the introduction of for-profit psychedelic pharmaceutical corporations have shifted capital away from non-profits.
- Author: Plus Three
- Tags: Podcasts, Videos

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In Part Two Normie, Dave, Russell, and Sarvesh continue their conversation about Atai Life Sciences and how the introduction of for-profit psychedelic pharmaceutical corporations have shifted capital away from non-profits. This episode gets extra wacky and dark as they dive into Atai Founder & Chairman Christian Angermayer’s [role](https://web.archive.org/web/20250812152351/https://atai.life/people/christian-angermayer/) on Rwandan president Paul Kagame’s Advisory Council.

According to [Human Rights Watch](https://www.hrw.org/video-photos/video/2017/10/09/309965?ref=psymposia.com), [journalist Michela Wrong](https://www.amazon.com/Do-Not-Disturb-Political-African-ebook/dp/B089SPKRRC?ref=psymposia.com), [Archbishop Desmond Tutu](https://web.archive.org/web/20260613065140/https://inyenyerinews.org/justice-and-reconciliation/archbishop-desmond-tutus-take-on-michela-wrongs-do-not-disturb-book-on-kagames-rwanda/), [various](https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210520-campaign-for-dr-congo-s-war-victims-puts-rwanda-s-kagame-on-defensive?ref=psymposia.com) [governments](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/obamas-push-for-democracy-in-africa-runs-up-against-presidents-for-life/2015/12/01/ffa11d52-8d39-11e5-934c-a369c80822c2%5Fstory.html?ref=psymposia.com), and [many](https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/30/books/review/do-not-disturb-michela-wrong-rwanda.html?ref=psymposia.com) other [media](https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/23/opinions/hotel-rwanda-kagame-rusesabagina-trial-zoellner-pearson/index.html?ref=psymposia.com) outlets, Kagame is a [tyrant](https://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/08/magazine/paul-kagame-rwanda.html?ref=psymposia.com) who has [murdered](https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/13/rwandans-charged-murder-exiled-critic?ref=psymposia.com), [disappeared](https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/28560/in-rwanda-kagame-is-silencing-dissent-at-the-cost-of-his-own-credibility?ref=psymposia.com), and [arrested](https://apnews.com/article/dubai-kigali-trials-genocides-arrests-a40c34453e9d9155b43195d09fb9237c?ref=psymposia.com) numerous [political opponents](https://www.wsj.com/articles/exiled-rwandan-opposition-figure-killed-in-south-africa-11614015999?ref=psymposia.com), [journalists](https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/05/03/what-press-freedom-looks-rwanda?ref=psymposia.com), [critics](https://www.bbc.com/news/10479882?ref=psymposia.com), and [citizens](https://www.hrw.org/news/2021/03/30/rwanda-arrests-prosecutions-over-youtube-posts?ref=psymposia.com).